Tuesday, April 16, 2019
"The Iliad" & "The Odyssey" What Do You Think?
With reference to The Iliad/Odyssey Video, what did it make you
contemplate regarding archetypal patterns? Homecoming? Pride? The hero?
Divinities? Heroic Code? Guest/Host? Hubris? Other? Please quote from
either text or the video. Please complete this blog response by 3:31p.m. on Thur., Apr. 18th.
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In these stories the people are considered heros for what they do. They do things like fight in the Battle of Troy or fighting the cyclops. They do things that would be considered greater than the average person so when they come home they are generally greeted with open arms. After Odysseus fought the cyclops, his journey home was hard and he faced many hardships, possibly because of his ego. This could be part of his "heros journey".
odyssey to me means a trip where nobody can see you but in the clip, it says it means a long trip and an adventure far way and also a human that is strong bold and brave. but the odyssey returned his trip but only in a way of serious test.
odyssey to me means a trip where nobody can see you but in the clip, it says it means a long trip and an adventure far way and also a human that is strong bold and brave. but the odyssey returned his trip but only in a way of serious test.
The archetypes in the Iliad and the Odyssey are important because they say a lot about how humans tend to think. The Homecoming is especially interesting because the journey always ends in the same place it began, despite whatever happens in between. For some of the first written pieces of literature, they had a great timelessness and taught us a lot about our "inherent psychic tendencies".
Lots of heroes who go through the challenges that they are supposed to complete come out with more pride and more of an ego because they know that they will be seen as a hero. Being a hero in these stories can mean many things as heroes go through many different challenges and not all are the same. They do above average task that a normal human can do so they are seen as heroes.
The Iliad started with a bad traveler after he stole from the king, this was the first part of the Trojan War which is what the Iliad is all about. It was a long ten year battle where most of the Greeks died, the heroics of the battle would cause a celebration but Poseidon was mad at Odysseus and wouldn't make his journey home easy. The journey took an additional ten years to travel home.
Both the Iliad and the Odyssey share similar characteristics in the fact that these certain people travel defeating tasks that most people would find to be heroic or impossible. The challenges faced by these people are usually found to be impossible to defeat by most people making the traveler a hero and something special in their society. These stories also gives us insight about how people thought about heroes and what they should be like.
The Iliad and the Odyssey share similar aspects in the way that they both represent a journey and difficult tasks that are considered heroic because of their "impossibility". These two stories give insight on what it means to be a hero and what the journey that is considered a heroes journey. They show the challenges that people considered to be heroic in their society. They show what a hero should like and what they should accomplish.
The Iliad and the Odyssey share similar qualities with their Zenia which is the guest/Host relationship. The Iliad tries to steal the fairest girl who is already married from the host and in the Odyssey, Odysseus steals food from the Cyclops. They also both have gods in them but are written from a human standpoint. In the Iliad, Apollo, Artemis, and Aphrodite are on the Trojan side, and Posiden, Heo, and Athena were on the greek side. In the Odyssey, Posiden and Athena are the two main gods to help out or destroy what Odysseus has done.
The video makes me look at the different themes of mythology such as hubris. It is interesting that Odysseus tells the cyclops his name bringing about a lot of his troubles. the hubris is a large theme in all many epics.
The video also tells explains how noble mortals are because we suffer death and pain and the gods are less noble because they do not suffer as we mortals do. The gods represent the different emotions and thoughts of us humans.
I think that Odysseus's trip consisted of challenges that were part of his overall challenge. He did have certain challenges like fighting the cyclops, but that was only a certain part. There are things that people are considered heroes for, and he was considered a hero because of his quest and what he did.
Mheret Tatek
This novel displayed and established an abundance of heroic archatypes. Bravery and cunning being the strongest hero character traits that its establises. It instills pride as a fatal flaw and set the ground for stories for generations to come.
After watching the video I think that lots of archetypes like guest host or heroic code show up a lot in the modern world and in Odysseus's life. In Odysseus's journey when he encounters the Cyclops it is an example of a guest host relationship, in the modern world when you host a party it is an example of a guest host. Overall the journey of Odysseus and the modern world can be tied together very well, even if the connection seems to be weak.
They both follow the heroes journey, and the hardships among their travel. Odysseus's journey home was hard, which may be showing him being less heroic. He had too much pride and could've came off with a bad ego.
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