Tuesday, May 1, 2018
Counseling And The Use Of "The Iliad" And "The Odyssey?"
After listening to the Psychiatrist Counsels Vets With Odyssey Audio, what are you thinking about the The Iliad And The Odyssey?
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After hearing this it just kind of reinforced the thought that Greek mythology is timeless and applicable to any day and age. For example, Jonathan used stories to relate to Vietnam and Iraq veterans. I think a lot of this comes from the common feeling of hurt and loss.
The Illiad and The Odyssey are largely powerful stories, and the fact that they're still being used to counsel military personnel is pretty mind-boggling. The stories have been so influential in shaping contemporary stories and many other works that a lot of the concepts in them still apply to modern life. It's also really cool that that helps vets and current military members cope with whatever they've been going through.
This audio shows that the mentality of a person can change based on hearing stories and what they mean. This proves that by hearing stories of those who have been in the same place as the soldiers makes them think that there is a way for them to make it in the world.
After listening to the Psychiatrist Counsels Vets With Odyssey Audio, I can see that in greek literature has a lot of insight. The vets can relate to the soldiers in the greek stories loss and tragedy. The Odyssey and The Iliad share the struggles of people throughout all of time. An example of this connection is when Odysseus and his soldiers arrive at the shore with less people that went on the journey and still with much more journey to go.
My thoughts about this is that the stories are still relatable today and people connect to it. The stories were relatable to the soldiers because they understand the hardships that the characters go through. I thought it was an interesting way for recovery and was somewhat different that helps people who are suffering
I think it is very interesting that this man used the Iliad and Odyssey to communicate with army veterans. He explained hardships / pain to the army vets that were changed by it. He moved them by comparing fate to the books. It is very interesting that he took a book that dates back thousands of years but can provide an amount of comfort for the people that served for our country.
After hearing the podcast, its very interesting to see the contrast between the epic Trojan War and modern warfare and the effects it has on soldiers. This is very interesting to me and I like the connection. Shaw is right in the podcast that war is an epic journey for men, good or bad, and that similar ideas stretch from ancient times to now. It's good to accept the fates of war because the Iliad illustrates that it's a struggle for glory as well
It's interesting how these myths could help heal veterans' mental state. Although these stories have been around since ancient times, they still have an impact on present day issues, as shown by its use in counseling members of the military. This is just another way Greek mythology applies to modern day life.
Sometimes it is increasingly difficult to understand the stories of Greek mythology from outside of its to-the-point writing, so it was interesting hearing the comparisons in mental health in modern military vets to those of the Greek myths. When simply reading the myths themselves, it is very difficult to relate to the characters or even believe that they are feeling much emotion at all due to the writing, but when those things are taken into account the stories start to make more sense and are more relatable.
After listening to the audio file it is interesting how he uses stories from long ago to help recovering veterans and the fact that it helps them a lot to take their mind off of the war and counter the PTSD.
This recording makes me realize the importance of the Iliad and the Odyssey, and how timeless it is. The Iliad and Odyssey are very old texts, but are still great pieces of writing today, and still applicable to society today. It also shows that war today hasn't changed very much. War has always been tragic and sad, but the people in the war can be seen as heroic.
The Iliad and the Odyssey are still very relatable to modern day. Soldiers can come back to America after fighting in a war and read these stories and not feel as alone. The veterans struggles can be compared almost directly to the stories we have been reading.
"The Iliad" and "The Odyssey" although both fictional epic poems, have extremely real themes and lessons. As the news recording said, when the soldiers hear these stories they sound very familiar, the loss and guilt they feel is the same loss and guilt that soldiers have been feeling all the way back to Ancient Greece. This proves to me that even mythological stories have very real bases that we can connect to.
After hearing this it just kind of reinforced the thought that Greek mythology is timeless and applicable to any day and age. For example, Jonathan used stories to relate to Vietnam and Iraq veterans. I think a lot of this comes from the common feeling of hurt and loss.
Listening to this recording made me realize how iconic the Iliad and Odyssey are. These stories both have survived the test of time and have been passed down from generation to generation. These are both some great pieces of writing, and people still use them today for a variety of things. The people in the interview use the stories to take their minds off of war, showing that these stories can still influence people and transport people to feel like they are in the story.
After listening to the audio clip, I am thinking that modern day soldiers and wars we are fighting today, can be related to the battles fought in The Odyssey and The Iliad. It also shows that these stories are timeless and they will never go away. While they are very old pieces of text, they still can be applicable to our society today. It also shows that after all of this time, war has not changed. There will always be heroes even through the tragedy of war.
After listening to the audio clip, I am thinking that modern day soldiers and wars we are fighting today, can be related to the battles fought in The Odyssey and The Iliad. It also shows that these stories are timeless and they will never go away. While they are very old pieces of text, they still can be applicable to our society today. It also shows that after all of this time, war has not changed. There will always be heroes even through the tragedy of war.
The Iliad and the Odyssey are very strong messaged stories which relate to most of the veterans stories. The Iliad and the odyssey would relate to any one who has experienced war, and had to deal with losses of people and battles. The Results of the veterans are proof of how powerful the Iliad and the odyssey's message really is.
When then these two texts are used for counseling, it seemed to calm the soldiers from memories of war and in times of chaos. They think about if other people know what they have been through with times of war. I think that this was a good way for the soldiers to realize that they weren't alone in what they were feeling when they came back from war.
Both the Illiad and the Odyssey are very strong messaged stories that are some times very similar to war stories we hear from veterans today. I shows how timeless the stories actually are and how powerful the message of these two books is
The audio reveals the human aspect of a journey like the Iliad or the Odyssey where god like figures lead each other into battle. The difference between Odysseus and war in our world is that civilians are often very passive with the Greeks in their time but today veterans are appreciated despite the loss or victory of a war. Heroic elements in a mythological sense differ from heroism in war today although the two relate to each other very closely in ways that both have heroes no matter what.
the audio shows us the journey of Lilad and odysseys differences and similarities including the battle from veterans
The stories have been carried along for so long and people feel truly connected to them ever still. The power between the pieces shows how truely amazing they are to be used so much throughout everything. And it's cool that it has reached so many people.
The stories have been told for hundreds of years. I feel that people are really connected to them. It shows that people can believe in the same thing and not switch up their beliefs.
After listening to the audio clip it shows that each generation and every person has their own hero's journey. No matter where you're from or no matter who you are you will experience it because of the fact that it is just a way of showing people's lives through story. We go through things and face trials and get roughed up. It’s interesting how war veterans are able to cope with their stories because of it. Probably because it gives the feeling of not being alone. The feeling that this sort of thing has been going on for centuries and the fact that they are mostly war stories probably helps as well. This all is just a way to show that through history not much has changed. We still have to go through the troubles of life. It’s just a difference in time.
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