Based Upon The Viewed Iliad/Odyssey Resources: The Iliad Video/The Odyssey Crash Course Video
The Science The Myth The Odyssey Video
What should you take away from these two famous texts? Please complete this blog response after viewing the linked videos.
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I took away from this blog that Odysseus was way too prideful and it cost him the lives of all his men. These videos went into more detail on how the war was disputed by famous poets, such as Homer. The Iliad and Odyssey were both vocally presented, so these poems and stories could've been interpreted differently by different people.
The Trojan war was only really documented through myth so we don't really know historically how it started. But the Illiad did say what started the war (the kidnapping of Paris) and the Odyssey alludes to how it ends (through the Greek gods intervening). The Illiad was a poem in wartime, while the Odyssey was a poem in peacetime. But there was still mass amounts of violence in both the poems.
One thing I can remember from the videos is the characteristics of a hero in their opinion. I think that being a hero doesn't need approval from the gods, or a defining characteristic that makes them a hero, but just the actions that they take to become a hero. In the second video, John Greene said that there is one trait that makes them a hero, and I agree with that, since every person has a special ability that makes them special, and could make them a hero.
I learned that even though heroes aren't the best people, they have a certain quality that makes them a hero to other people. Odysseus wasn't a good person but he was very smart and clever and knew how to work his way out of a situation. Most people in the stories are violent and so when a hero is violent is means that they are the same as all of the regular people. They just have a good quality that makes the better like being smart, or really strong.
The Iliad and the Odyssey teach us about the duality of war. You can achieve glory on the battlefield, but you must also be glorious during peacetime or the violence continues on forever. Athena helps both heroes and by doing so represents the balance between peace and war. Even when given advice from the gods themselves, the heroes must achieve their own balance and their own sense of identity.
The Iliad is the book more focused on war and coming out as the victor and the Odyssey is more about what happens after war and how we put war away. After the war Odysseus is so familiar with war that he kills all the men that are at his house and their family.
I took away from these stories that people took different perspectives to different events in history. Their beliefs can play a large role in this because the gods they believe in control what happens around them. This can persuade peoples ideas and thoughts of what happened in different times in history.
The Iliad was a book all about war and chaos. This then led to the Odyssey which was about the journey of Odysseus back to Greece. At the end of the Odyssey Odysseus comes back home and slays all of the setters that took over his home. It is a cycle of violence that seemed like it would never end and it is reflected to today where no country and really ever get out of war. The Afghanistan war is a war we started nearly 20 years ago and we still have a presence there even though it seems as if the war is done, just waiting for someone to slip up and cause another clash.
That he when he returned he didn't know how to handle life and when he came back basic things lead to him slaughtering men. He was a very smart man tricking his enemies but not thinking his actions have consequences.
After watching the two videos I think that there is one major thing that people should take away, that is to always stay true to yourself. We can see this theme when looking at the Achilles story because Achilles is meant to be a warrior, not someone who stays at home. Achilles doesn't stay true to his warrior self resulting in the death of his best friend and potential lover Patroclus. Overall the two texts, the Illiad and the Odyssey, both teach people important life lessons with the most important one being stay true to yourself.
The first text is all about war and fighting, Achilles has to choose whether he goes home to live a quiet life, or stay and live in the glory. He decides to stay and choose glory and kill Hector. While the Odessey is a romantic poem. Odysseus just wants to get home to his wife but has to take a 10-year journey to do it instead of two weeks. Odysseus has a lot of anger and can kill at the snap of his fingers, his own wife doesn't know if it is him and wants to make sure it is, so she tells him to recite the hidden vow of their wedding.
After watching the two videos I think that there is one major thing that people should take away, that is to always stay true to yourself. We can see this theme when looking at the Achilles story because Achilles is meant to be a warrior, not someone who stays at home. Achilles doesn't stay true to his warrior self resulting in the death of his best friend and potential lover Patroclus. Overall the two texts, the Illiad and the Odyssey, both teach people important life lessons with the most important one being stay true to yourself.
We should take away the lessons that both of these stories teach the readers. Both of the stories offer insight to the minds of these ancient people and how their culture and religion plays in their daily lives. Both stories gives us examples of PTSD, the importance of love, friendships, and war. We should take away the ideas that these two stories present about human relationships and human behaviour during times of trouble.
Mheret Tatek
The Iliad and the Odyssey both teach us what Ancient Greeks viewed as a Hero; which was that the protagonist accomplishes a goal with some divine deity on his side
the one thing to take away from the 2 videos is that odesius is wise and clerver with in which he ives. and not be friends or close to Odysseus because youwill more than likly die.
I took away that you should always react in a way that wont insult anyone. With Odysseus's actions, he cost the lives of many of his men.
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