Tuesday, March 12, 2019
Jason And Perseus Heroes?
Based upon our readings and discussions regarding several Greek Heroes
(Jason/Perseus), what patterns are you noticing? Do
you now think differently about the labeling of a hero or heroine?
Argue, explain, and defend. Please complete this blog response during class on 3-19-19.
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Some of the patterns I am noticing from the reading for the heroes/heroines are that they always go on a mythical adventure that leads them through tough trials and tribulation. These heroes also always seem to slay a beast of sorts, it doesn't have to be the most powerful thing, from a dragon to Medusa and much more. I think that the labeling of the hero/heroines still stays the same path of the hero's journey. They always take the same steps to try and do their adventure, they just have different outcomes.
The patterns I'm noticing while reading these myths is that there is always a hero's journey and there are heroic tests that the hero must complete in order to win in the end. I still believe that the hero is always born to be a hero and is born different so everyone around them believes they will become a hero also. In the stories we have read, the hero always has a sad ending in which he or she changed for the worse or they end up dying.
I noticed that each hero does something good in the story but also does something bad. Heroes are supposed to be the best people and they never do anything wrong, but in the stories most of the heroes aren't the best people. They always do something that isn't hero like and yet they are still called a hero. I think a hero should be a good person that doesn't do bad things.
The Hero stories we've looked at are interesting because what we consider a hero today is much different than what the Greeks considered a hero long ago. Jason and Perseus achieve their goals through whatever means necessary, even if that means doing some bad things along the way. Part of being a hero, though, is knowing oneself and owning one's actions, whether they be good or bad. Jason and Perseus are heroes, and perhaps being a hero takes a toll on one's ability to be a human.
one patter i'm noticing is that the hero/heroine always has to go through a trial of obstacles and monsters. Another patter i'm noticing is most hero/heroine have the gods watching over them and giving the items to help them in there trials/quest.
I've noticed that heroes have to face a set of trials and have courage to go on "their heroes journey." I notice many myths with heroes often have violence, despair, and upcoming. I agree with the labeling of a hero or heroine because they are faced with many dangerous tasks, which make them heroes, especially if they are going on the tasks for others.
Based on the readings and discussions regarding Jason and Perseus I have noticed a lot of patterns. Both Jason and Perseus were gifted/helped by the gods, were sent on a quest, both had a woman that was in the story, and both had challenges that they both had to face. I think labeling a heroine/hero has to have qualities of bravery, vulnerability, courage, and integrity.
By showing vulnerability the gods were able and liked them both enough to help them out. They had to have courage and bravery to defeat the challenges that were faced upon them, and integrity to do the right thing.
I am noticing a lot of the hero's journey path being told within the stories. Both the Jason and Perseus stories started with the call to adventure and then both hero has hit the "abyss" and bounced back from it and ended with the return. I feel like we label too many people of hero's or heroine's if we look at people stories and the connection of greek stories. We label heroes in much different ways now compared to then. Now it seems that sometimes the call to adventure is started with the "abyss" and it ends with another call to adventure.
Based on the previous readings I would say that the Greek myths we've been reading definitely share a common pattern, one of these common patterns is how the hero always gets the girl in the end. This has happened with if not every myth we have read so far, at the end of Jason he gets the girl at the end of his adventure, and at the end of Cupid and Psyche Cupid makes out with Psyche at the end.
I think based on the study of different hero's in class, one can come to the conclusion that many hero stories have the same idea. They all face struggles and in the end overcome these struggles and are usually victorious. This can be seen in many of the Marvel/DC movies. Even though they have different characters, the plot is usually the same.
i notices both heroes have some similarity like fighting and glory so i think that shows that they are both strong heroes. also there journeys sound the same from the films and the books we have read.
Based upon reading about different male heroes in Greek mythology I have been able to identify multiple traits they all have in common. Greek heroes all follow the basic hero's journey storyline; where they have an ordinary world, call to adventure, they face multiple trials, have their dragon battle, and go back to their ordinary world with some sort of reward.
The overlying theme of which I noticed in these heroes stories is that they always have to accomplish some set of tasks in order to be rewarded. These stories usually start with some sort of hardship and then shows the hero depart on a journey to wherever he's sent off too. The gods usually favor these heroes highly and provide help where they can, like weapons and armor.
When I first came into this class I didn't think about the different stories of heroes, but I just thought of them as all unique. What I have came to learn is that almost all heroes in text have the same journey, just a different place that they are going to. I think that all heroes possess the same qualities, and have the same goal in mind. Every single story that we have read has had the main character going on a quest of some kind, and coming back successful after fighting a great evil. It gives people examples of what they should do, and how they can succeed. I think all stories are the same, and have the same goal in mind. It may not be the exact same, but it is to achieve something that is necessary to them.
You notice that the hero always gets the girl/guy or a treasure of some sort they always get praised by people but in reality hercules killed his whole family but nobody focus on that they forget about the crime that he has done.
After reading the stories about Perseus and Jason, my perception of heroes or heroines has not changed. When I think of a hero I think of someone who is brave and who longs for adventure. When they complete a quest, help someone in need, or defeat evil that is when they earn the title of hero and I think that both Perseus and Jason demonstrated at least some of these things.
I believe that it is often seen in these myths and tales that mortals are pawns to the gods. For example, Jason is being used as a pawn to Hera to bring down Pellas. Simply because Pellas chose not to worship her. Its often shown that the gods use mortals for their own personal gain and petty wishes.
Mheret Tatek
As we've procceded to discuss the idea of a hero/ heroine within the confines of greek mythology, I've come to realize that the way the people of ancient greece viewed their heros coencides a lot with the way we view "the protagonist". In turn, it's given me a far greater appreciation for the hero and what they represent within our modern day culture. The hero is willing to do what's right, but considers the methods. knowing calloused and unnesassary violence are not justifiable by their means
I feel like every hero faces similar trials and seems to be fueled with similar intentions. Every hero fights some sort of "boss" weather internal, external, or both. They all seem to follow the path of the hero's journey and all of them get similar rewards in terms of fame, riches, or even sometimes love.
In Greek hero myths there seems to be a pattern in how their story regularly turns out, much like how joseph campbell said the hero always goes through some form of rough childhood away from home or not with their parents. The hero then goes on a journey and faces many trials, only when he overcomes those trials does he return. However in the greek myths there is often times when the hero is punished after returning much like perseus, other times they are like Jason and return just as they are, a hero. The definition of a hero seems to be a very loose one, however I would define a hero as a person that overcomes these mental, and sometimes spiritual trials to eventually become this great person, others might label them as someone who overcomes these physical trials that require them to be big and strong. I say that they overcome these types of trials but these trials could include some physical aspects but will always lead back to the mental and spiritual aspects.
I've noticed that there's always a hero's journey. I also understand that heros have to have courage. I've also noticed that there are tests that a hero must go through to complete their Journey. The journey is like their adventure the hero always go on.
I have noticed a common pattern in these stories is that each of these heroes or heroines are strictly doing these actions based purely on their own wants and beliefs. Typically these heroes go on a journey to receive something they want or they want to prove themselves to an individual. Another pattern in these stories is the Hero's journey. All of the myths and stories follow this exact pattern. I would personally define a hero as someone who overcomes obstacles that many others would not be able to over come. They are unique and often their flaws become what is most loved about these individuals.
One of the patterns ive noticed is that the hero often suffers greatly from the adventure he sets out on and almost never returns the same as they were.
I notice that in the text Heroes have to have some great journey and face many challenges along the way getting help from the . We know Heroes as all good like they are portrayed in movies or cartoons but in the text it shows some of their real qualities.For example Jason has to go on the quest for the golden fleece and he gets help from the gods by receiving some helpful tools.
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