Tuesday, November 5, 2019
Jason & Perseus Heroes?
Based upon our readings and discussions regarding several Greek Heroes
(Jason/Perseus), what patterns are you noticing? Do
you now think differently about the labeling of a hero or heroine?
Argue, explain, and defend. Please complete this blog response during class on 11-5-19.
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I'm seeing quite often in the hero archetype, brute force and mental density. I see them fueled into their quests by power or by family, I see them slaying monsters using techniques never tried before, I see them elevated to a higher status when they return home.
Oftentimes the heroes have a lot of flaws that show towards the end rather than the beginning, they get bittersweet endings and are rarely ever rewarded fully with wholesome victories. They also oftentimes are favored heavily by fate and do things that would help their mother or father.
Perseus in my opinion was the hero because he is trying to save his mother from a greedy man who only does and gets what he wants. This make Perseus mad so he goes to kill the gorgon and bring the head back to turn the man into stone they go see atlas and the three sisters and this affects the story because it introduces more characters.
they always either prove someone wrong and or defeating a monster for the gods or their own glory.
I notice only one pattern, many of the hero's have help. None of them are able to do it themselves without godly help in their tasks. I do not, what they do is help good people or family. Many of them do not attempt to be bad people. Jason wanted to help his mother and save her life. Persus the same with the marrige.
Both Jason and Perseus had people who did not think they could do it. After that person voiced their concerns or bragged about them not being able to do it, the Gods came to Jason/Perseus. I don't think differently about the labeling of a hero or heroine because they are someone who does something with other people's intentions in mind.
Both Jason and persues went on a great quest. Both quests were potentially dangerous but they were done to defend their mom. Also, both heroes had the help of the Gods to help them complete their tasks and goals. Also, Both Jason and persues wanted glory for themselves, Jason wanted the thone and persues didn't want to be without a wedding present.
The most reoccurring thing I have noticed was that the gods were there to help. Just like Jason and the golden fleece he has visited a god to help them along the way. Jason had Hera and Perseus had Hermes and Athena. Yes before it was anyone doing good deeds but through greek mythology, it seems like they have to be assisted by the gods or get noticed by the gods.
Both 'heroes' are going on a journey for their own personal cause. When I think of a hero I think of someone who selflessly acts for the good of many, not in their own self interests. While they are both helping someone else their reasonings for it are not inherently selfless.
I have noticed that it takes a lot of work and bravery for them to become heros. The heroes always completed their task and proved someone wrong.
A common theme of the heroes is that both receive help from Gods and Goddesses, often facing the challenges alone. They often have to prove themselves in a battle of a terrible beast to go against an evil and selfish king in order to save their mother or father. Both have a density and a fate they must follow. They both have strengths but their weakness is their egos.
Patterns between Jason and Perseus are that they are both trying to protect their mother. They recieve help from the gods and the role of "destiny" influences the gods' decisions. Also, they are both sons of Zeus. Jason and Perseus also share flaws, but Jason's seem to be more apparent and it very negatively impacts the people around him, specifically Medea. I think the Greeks define heroine and hero as a decent, powerful individual accomplishing a deadly task that no one has been able to do before.
A pattern that seems to reoccur is that something goes wrong, the hero needs to go get something or go on a journey to solve that, and then it works out for them in the end. I don't think very different about defining A hero or heroine because it's pretty much the same thing just made or presented in a different way.
- Nick Baker
For each of the hero's, Jason and Perseus there is always something that drives them to get what they want. Something that proves their worth in a way. They both have a anger against something that makes them want a golden fleece or the head of medusa.
The patterns that I've noticed after reading the stories of Jason and Perseus are that both heroes follow the guidelines of the greek hero characteristics that we've talked about in class. For instance, both heroes had to leave home and complete a journey, both were favored by a god or goddess, and have to face different challenges. I now think slightly differently about the labeling of a hero or heroine when talking about fictional heroes such as ones told in stories, however my position on modern day heroes has not changed.
One pattern I noticed between Jason and Perseus was what they fought for. It seemed in both stories they had a task in which they had to collect an item whether it was a golden fleece or medusas head. but both heroes had a motivator. I thought that they both completed their tasks because of their mothers. both Jason and Perseus are equal heroicly though.
It shows how much support and helps a hero has. I think all of these journeys aren't just about periods and Jason, I think it is about there whole journey and everyone that was involved. Heros need other heroes to help or else the world will be heroless and who wants to live in a world like that. It also shows that the heroes are willing to give up everything even their parents at a young age to achieve greatness. They are thinking about the greater good and always fighting. Jason and Perseus's heroes' journey is a great example of heroes working with heroes for the best of it.
After reading a lot about different heroes in Greek mythology, it seems all of the heroes get a lot of help during their journeys. Jason got a lot of help from his band of heroes and the daughter of the king. Perseus got a lot of help from the gods. Neither of them would have survived without outside help.
There is a pattern that I am seeing is that when they are asked for help they do it. There is a difference between hero and heroine. I think that Perseus because he is the one who jumps right in and helps out in the times that are troubled.
After reading and discussing the two stories in class some of the patterns I'm noticing throughout these stories is the hero has something happen that causes them to go on their quest, They all leave their home on a mission to find the object or person which helps them "save the day", they go through some sort of an obstacle or trial that they have to overcome, and they have help along the way from gods and goddesses. However, my views on how I label a modern day hero has not changed. I do think that how I label a hero in past stories and myths has changed slightly because of the guidelines we've discussed in class on what it means to be a greek hero.
I have noticed that both heroes are agreeing to do things for other people in order to get things for themselves. They typically get help on the way throughout their journey and get to where are want to go.
It seems to me like they all religiously follow the hero circle. I also noticed that a lot of the stories involve helping out parents and gods as well as parents and gods helping the heroes. Now it makes me think everyone is sort of a hero because we all do the hero circle at some point so everyone is kind of a hero in that way.
A common theme that arises in both perseus and jason and the golden fleece is they both receive help from the gods. For Jason it was hera and for perseus it was from both athena and hermes. Both stories also follow the hero's journey pretty well. they both have a call to action,help,trial,and ultimately tribulation.
The common thing in both Perseus and Jason and the golden fleece is the fact that they both get help from the gods Jason got help from Hera and Perseus got help from both Athena and Hermes. Both of the stories and even everyone in the world follows or is going of the heroes journey (call to action, help from something, heroes trial, and the bringing what they found back to the village).
A common theme that I have noticed is that these heroes don't succeed by themselves. Both of these heroes needed help from higher powers (gods/goddesses). These heroes began their journey in search of something that would change their fate or save the day. (example: golden fleece). These heroes had to overcome extremely hard things but by keeping their heads on straight they succeeded.
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